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2 MUCH OF TOLERANCE IS BAD 2? SO HOW ABT' BEING BALANCED?

by ***** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:34 pm

Dutch Muslims Face Burqa Ban
By Alexandra Hudson
Reuters

AMSTERDAM -- If the Netherlands becomes the first European country to ban the burqa and other Muslim face veils this month, Hope says she'll resort to wearing a surgical mask to dress in accordance with her religious beliefs.

"I'll wear one of those things they wore during the SARS epidemic if I have to," said the Dutch-born Muslim, one of about 50 women in the Netherlands who wear the head-to-toe burqa or the niqab, a face veil that conceals everything but the eyes.

"I'm very practical," the 22-year-old added.

Last December, parliament voted to forbid women from wearing the burqa or any Muslim face coverings in public, justifying the move in part as a security measure.

The Cabinet is awaiting the results of a study into the legality of such a ban under European human rights laws before making its final decision. The results are expected in the second half of this month.

"This is an enormous victory for traditional Dutch decency," said Geert Wilders, the populist member of parliament who first proposed the burqa ban, after hearing parliament had backed it.

"The burqa is hostile to women and medieval. For a woman to walk around on the streets completely covered is an insult to everyone who believes in equal rights."


The Dutch may have been among the first to legalize cannabis, prostitution and euthanasia -- earning them a reputation for tolerance -- but they are now in the process of imposing some of Europe's toughest entry and integration laws.

Social and religious tensions have escalated in recent years, exacerbated by the murder of columnist and director Theo van Gogh by a Dutch-Moroccan militant in 2004 after he made a film accusing Islam of condoning violence against women.

His murder, and that of anti-immigration populist Pim Fortuyn two years earlier, deeply unsettled the country and provoked an anti-Muslim backlash, as well as much soul-searching about the makeup and cohesion of Dutch society.

Famile Arslan, a Dutch-Muslim lawyer, believes a ban would only reinforce today's polarized climate, and prompt more women to wear the niqab as a form of protest.

"We are very scared that what starts with a ban on the burqa will end with a ban on the hijab," she said, referring to the Muslim headscarf worn by thousands in the Netherlands.

"A country once known for its tolerance is now becoming known for its ignorance," she added.

About a third of the country's 1 million Muslims have Moroccan ancestry, while Dutch Turks form another sizeable community.

The Netherlands would be the first European state to impose a countrywide ban on Islamic face coverings, though other countries have already outlawed them in specific places.

In 2004, France controversially banned overt religious symbols such as Muslim headscarves, large Christian crosses and Jewish skullcaps from schools, arguing they were contrary to its separation of church and state.

In the same year, the Belgian town of Maaseik banned burqas by adapting existing laws that require people to be readily identifiable in public.

Wilders, the member of parliament, who lives under heavy guard after death threats for his criticism of radical Islam, argues a ban on the burqa will support moderate Muslims and boost their wider integration, in addition to removing a security risk.




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by KK » Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:07 pm

Interesting, I did not see any women with burqa at Amsterdam on my visit. Seems to me that they are not just liberal but they are forcing themselves to be liberal, phew! weird indeed.
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by CtrlAltDel » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:48 am

banning certain clothes, IMO is taking secularism a bit too far :roll:



wtf is the danger to society from a burqa?



seems like Europe is becoming Saudi Arabia in reverse gear - intolerance of another kind.
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by ***** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:50 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:banning certain clothes, IMO is taking secularism a bit too far :roll:

wtf is the danger to society from a burqa?

seems like Europe is becoming Saudi Arabia in reverse gear - intolerance of another kind.




Simple, it could be a suicide bomber in a burqa with all the needful things like a huge woman !! or any recognisable terrorist behind the thing.
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by CtrlAltDel » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:23 pm

what will they do abt the surgical mask then? will they ban surgical masks too? :D
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by ***** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:31 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:what will they do abt the surgical mask then? will they ban surgical masks too? :D




why not? :D :wink: find girls cute.. so, cough cough.. more so their eyes..
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by mango » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:12 pm

then i can think of a lot of chicks i know who deserve to have permanent burkhas.. can we do that? hmmm??
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