INDIAN TEAM IS LOSING THE RHYTHEM

[Sharjeel]

The Guru has spoken! Thumbs Up for that!!!

[Habitual Perfectionist]

God helps those who help themselves....

unless they click as a team and play well, no amount of prayers would help...

That nullifies the whole concept of prayers. And also of phrases like...."God...let this not happen to me". Why do we pray for our well being when we can do things well and make it happen? Why do we pray for the health of our near n dear ones?



I don't want to start a debate on spirituality here...but prayers are just a fan's way of displaying support to their stars. I don't see any harm in them.



And thank you all detractors of cricket....for not having branded India's last match win against England as a result of match-fixing. Have seen such crap happen too. India loses, the team is bad...India wins, the match was fixed.

[Kenny]

God helps those who help themselves....

That nullifies the whole concept of prayers.

Yeah.. that's why I don't pray!

[Sharjeel]

That nullifies the whole concept of prayers. And also of phrases like...."God...let this not happen to me". Why do we pray for our well being when we can do things well and make it happen? Why do we pray for the health of our near n dear ones?

I don't want to start a debate on spirituality here...but prayers are just a fan's way of displaying support to their stars. I don't see any harm in them.

We should pray AFTER we have made our best effort. What CAD meant is that our prayer can only be answered if the team first plays well.

[cartman]

That nullifies the whole concept of prayers. And also of phrases like...."God...let this not happen to me". Why do we pray for our well being when we can do things well and make it happen? Why do we pray for the health of our near n dear ones?

I don't want to start a debate on spirituality here...but prayers are just a fan's way of displaying support to their stars. I don't see any harm in them.

We should pray AFTER we have made our best effort. What CAD meant is that our prayer can only be answered if the team first plays well.

what do u pray aafter ur team plays well? that the other team should nt play well? or that the players from the other team, who no doubt are good players should have back pains or sudden bodily disabilities?



then why play sport at all. all we could do is sit and pray right!

[cartman]

its all going wrong again.

[CtrlAltDel]

God helps those who help themselves....
unless they click as a team and play well, no amount of prayers would help...

That nullifies the whole concept of prayers. And also of phrases like...."God...let this not happen to me". Why do we pray for our well being when we can do things well and make it happen? Why do we pray for the health of our near n dear ones?
I don't want to start a debate on spirituality here...but prayers are just a fan's way of displaying support to their stars. I don't see any harm in them.

i never said prayers are bad. but ultimately it all depends on how the team performs on that day. remember how almost entire kerala (and nation too) prayed for Anju Bobby George. We all know what happened finally

Prayers are meant as a tool of comfort and moral support. Some people find prayers a calming influence. But most just repeat the prayers by rote and force of habit without understanding what they mean.

What i mean to say is that its a waste if we organize expensive havans or mass or whatever to improve the chances of our team. that money can go into something more useful.



I am not an athiest, but i dont believe in prayers. ultimately we face what we do to ourself and what others do to us.

[DQ]

As rightly said by someone as long as the players of the sub continent,

in particular India, play for personal records any team can beat them.



Its a teams game, need to collectively win it.



That is why on Paper we are the best side, but on in reality... no one performs when it matters most.



Zayada run banayenge to zayada sponsors milenge, ek do match jitaya to kaun yaad rakhta. After all end of the record check karte. Saree history kaun dekhta bhai.



Itna paisa aagaya, aab desh aur game ka kya sonchna. Jub mauka mila aapna record banaya bas. Ehsas hi nahi raha ke they are donning the Indian cap. Agar desh ke liye khelenge to itna talent hain ki World number 1 jab tak rahna chahe tab tak rah sakte hain.

[Sharjeel]

I can only partially agree with DQ. There is nothing wrong in being selfish. Making more runs will help the team anyway.



Just that sometimes people like our very own Sachin slow down before a century (and the match be damned!) then there is a problem.

[CtrlAltDel]

There is nothing wrong in being selfish. Making more runs will help the team anyway.

not always. a 'selfish' player would always pace his game to achieve his personal record. Australians are successful only because they give a rat's ass abt personal records. if they break records, its just incidental.

[cartman]

its all going wrong again.

[DQ]

There is nothing wrong in being selfish. Making more runs will help the team anyway.

not always. a 'selfish' player would always pace his game to achieve his personal record. Australians are successful only because they give a rat's ass abt personal records. if they break records, its just incidental.

Thats correct CAD and to add, when its easy record bana lo.



When it matters most, Chicken out. When you care about the Cap you are donning, you will perform for its pride.

When you eye for the Lamby or Audi, you will play for it.

[DQ]

Why isn't India the team of the year.



ANY WAY . WAY TO GO DRAVID.......

[DQ]

Notice the board behind him. If he starts eyeing that 1 crore hopes are dashed.

[DQ]

This is how Indians follow the game. Every player is a Lord and lords turn to the sponsors!!!!

[akhilis2cool]

Why isn't India the team of the year.

ANY WAY . WAY TO GO DRAVID.......

b`coz. australia is.....and i think they anounced a joint team....

[Scorpion's Sting]

Notice the board behind him. If he starts eyeing that 1 crore hopes are dashed.

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[akhilis2cool]

Notice the board behind him. If he starts eyeing that 1 crore hopes are dashed.

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he's talking abt. the sponsorship money that players earn. but i guess is irfan pathan is strong enuf. to not get caried away. god has given im more sense than some other players.

[Scorpion's Sting]

Notice the board behind him. If he starts eyeing that 1 crore hopes are dashed.

??

he's talking abt. the sponsorship money that players earn. but i guess is irfan pathan is strong enuf. to not get caried away. god has given im more sense than some other players.

Achcha, its pretty easy to get carried away by the flow of money but hope his better judgement saves him.



BTW, nice sig akhil bhai

[DQ]

Notice the board behind him. If he starts eyeing that 1 crore hopes are dashed.

??

he's talking abt. the sponsorship money that players earn. but i guess is irfan pathan is strong enuf. to not get caried away. god has given im more sense than some other players.

Well its still teething time, lets wait and see.

[Habitual Perfectionist]

CAD...its a popular misconception that Aussies don't play for personal gain.



Why does Brett Lee bowl every ball with the intention of surpassing Shoaib Akhtar as the fastest bowler?



And it's common news as to how Matthew Hayden batted with just Brian Lara's record in sight.



Teams go through ups and downs....The West Indies were unbeatable in the 80s just like the Aussies are now. And this dominance will wane shortly. Mind you that the nucleus of the team is very close to retirement.



And with this hullaboo over sponsorships, aren't players from other countries also into their own deals? Why single out Indians?



And DQ...a team made up of several talented individuals doesn't automatically become the best side. Look at what has happened to so many teams the world over. You have the case of the US basketball team in the olympics, Real Madrid & Man U in soccer. Why can't you blokes understand that teams go through bad patches? Hell...we plastered Australia and Pakistan. Nobody was calling the Indians wimps then. Why now? Why? I've asked this question on numerous occasions here but nobody seems to have an answer for it.

[DQ]

CAD...its a popular misconception that Aussies don't play for personal gain.

Why does Brett Lee bowl every ball with the intention of surpassing Shoaib Akhtar as the fastest bowler?

And it's common news as to how Matthew Hayden batted with just Brian Lara's record in sight.

Teams go through ups and downs....The West Indies were unbeatable in the 80s just like the Aussies are now. And this dominance will wane shortly. Mind you that the nucleus of the team is very close to retirement.

And with this hullaboo over sponsorships, aren't players from other countries also into their own deals? Why single out Indians?

And DQ...a team made up of several talented individuals doesn't automatically become the best side. Look at what has happened to so many teams the world over. You have the case of the US basketball team in the olympics, Real Madrid & Man U in soccer. Why can't you blokes understand that teams go through bad patches? Hell...we plastered Australia and Pakistan. Nobody was calling the Indians wimps then. Why now? Why? I've asked this question on numerous occasions here but nobody seems to have an answer for it.

We are just questioning the consistency.



With so much talent and plastering - blasting why cant we be consistent.



The past 5 yrs of cricket in particular, we have had the most talented player but no result dude.



when the 1983 Minnows could do it, why cant todays stalwarts.



Have the priorities changed now, is it more personal and commercial ?

This is just our question

[Imran Khan]

well , i hope u people hav also heard wht Mathew Hayden has said abt his Aussie Teamates wen asked abt the secret of performing so gud ..

he said that no Aussie player plays for his personal Milestone ..they always play for their team ...but here in India Team there are still few players left who play for their personal milestones thats the main reason they keep struggling and the whole team suffers .....

[rainmaker]

well , i hope u people hav also heard wht Mathew Hayden has said abt his Aussie Teamates wen asked abt the secret of performing so gud ..
he said that no Aussie player plays for his personal Milestone ..they always play for their team ...but here in India Team there are still few players left who play for their personal milestones thats the main reason they keep struggling and the whole team suffers .....

matthew hayden is a perfect example of a person living in a glass house throwing stones at others'. he is envious of the records held by tendulkar and dravid... after all its them who win the ICC player of the year awards.



i hope you know that this same matthew hayden made it a point to cross Lara's 375, even though it was against a lowly zimbabwe. he thus made an individual record for himself in the history books. however, brian lara then batted his way to 400 against england and reclaimed his record.



cricket is a TEAM game, if we had a hayden in our team, it would not change anything. he would get out for 50's and people would say "he's playing for records, the team is losing so how does it matter what he scores?". unfortunately thats what people say about lara and tendulkar. for eg, they forget that when the latter scores runs it is also for the team, and knowing how tendulkar contributes with batting bowling and fielding, i know how much a win matters to him.



there are very few individuals who do not play for records... somehow or the other it comes into play during the course of the game. who doesnt raise his bat after making a 50 or 100??



PS: Mark Taylor is one of the few cricketers who truly didnt play for records. In a test match against pakistan, he stopped batting at 334 not out, as a sign of respect for Don Bradman's record. i think its wrong for a batsman to think of not-breaking records... records are meant to be broken... but taylor made a point with his innings. he wanted to declare and give australia a chance to win the match, instead of carrying on and making a 380 like hayden or a 400 for that matter.

[Habitual Perfectionist]

We are just questioning the consistency.

With so much talent and plastering - blasting why cant we be consistent.

The past 5 yrs of cricket in particular, we have had the most talented player but no result dude.

when the 1983 Minnows could do it, why cant todays stalwarts.

Have the priorities changed now, is it more personal and commercial ?
This is just our question

The Indian team has been fairly consistent over the last 3 years....probably more than any other team in the world save the Aussies. Look back at the results....we won the Natwest trophy, were runners-up in the world cup, joint champs in the last edition of the champions trophy - denied only by the weather gods; and runners-up in the edition prior to that.



The Indian fans need to accept the fact that you cannot expect a team to win all the competitions it competes in. That'll also give the players a huge breather space and let them concentrate constructively on their games, thus eliciting better performances.