INDIAN TEAM IS LOSING THE RHYTHEM

by **azazel** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:03 pm

India vs. England game 1 :arrow:

Eng wins

India vs. England game 2 :arrow:

Eng wins, again!

:roll:

by **rabbithole** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:22 pm

azazel wrote:India vs. England game 1 Eng wins
India vs. England game 2 Eng wins, again!

India vs. England game 3 :arrow:

Eng wins, again! :evil:

by **azazel** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:39 pm

rabbithole wrote:India vs. England game 3 Eng wins, again!

arerere, ab itna bhi pessimism acha nahee hai. lets make all their moms call them b4 the match.. mebbe that'll help :roll:

by **Habitual Perfectionist** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:42 pm

Remember that we had similar slumps before the last world cup and even the last champions trophy.

The team needs our support now and we are in no way helping their cause by being caustic. You need to understand things from the point of view of someone who is out there in the middle. Things are not all that easy. Nobody wants a slump in form and its not done on purpose.

Suggestions that the players' endorsements etc. are causing a slump in performance are preposterous. Do you guys ever notice a slump in Shahrukh Khan or Amitabh Bachchan's performance after they have done a couple of ad films? Or do you mean to say that the players are spending time on ads when they should be practicing? Going by this logic, only models should do advertisements and everybody else should stick to their own professions.

by **azazel** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:14 am

arey yaar, im not criticising the team. they have all the support from me. was just posting my grievance at their loss

i wish them all the very best for the forthcoming Champions Trophy and oh, the last ODI against England

by **rainmaker** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:28 am

Habitual Perfectionist wrote:
Suggestions that the players' endorsements etc. are causing a slump in performance are preposterous. Do you guys ever notice a slump in Shahrukh Khan or Amitabh Bachchan's performance after they have done a couple of ad films? Or do you mean to say that the players are spending time on ads when they should be practicing? Going by this logic, only models should do advertisements and everybody else should stick to their own professions.

agree with you totally -- doing an ad or two every few months DOES NOT affect their performance. it is petty of us to think that they have lost interest in cricket and are running after money thru adverts.

i still cant understand why we play with seven batsmen. look at the way agarkar and harbhajan batted today (and even pathan is a good batsman)!! we bat all the way to no.10, and yet we stick to the 7 batsmen theory. :roll:

what we need is a 5th bowler, not a 7th batsman. on a day when balaji and agarkar got whacked the way that they did , a fifth bowler could have stemmed the flow of runs, got flintoff or collingwood dismissed and the target would be 250 instead of a mammoth 308.

by **Habitual Perfectionist** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:07 am

Mamujaan....I wasn't talking about you. My post was a very generic one.

And as for the 7th batsman theory, nobody said anything against it when the team was clicking. And suddenly, they started pointing fingers when it didn't work. That's what irks me.

I can relate to the 7th batsman controversy in a way. When I played hockey, Indian hockey was just opening up to the changes the sport had gone through in the last 10-12 years. Synthetic surfaces were slowly coming up. Coaches were trying to experiment on the formations. Till the early 70s, every team used to follow the 1-2-3-5 formation religiously, till the europeans started experimenting with 1-3-3-4 and 1-3-4-3 formations.

When our coach trained us on a 1-3-3-4 formation prior to the Asian U-16 tournament, a lot of fingers were raised and the coach was ridiculed. But we had faith in his judgement and the faith was equally reciprocated from his side. We emerged runners-up in the tournament and suddenly, our coach was the toast of the town. These are the double standards I hate to the core and thats the reason why I hate this hullaboo over the 7th batsman.

by **akhilis2cool** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:44 am

i hope the top order gets its rite tomorrow. y`day the bowlers batted better than the batsmen!!

these r pbmlms v have faced before so i guess v shld. get over it. its only a matter of time.

Patience

by **rainmaker** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:38 am

Habitual Perfectionist wrote:And as for the 7th batsman theory, nobody said anything against it when the team was clicking. And suddenly, they started pointing fingers when it didn't work. That's what irks me.

I stopped supporting the 7 batsmen theory long ago, during the World Cup. India were runners-up there, however:

Did 7 batsmen help us beat Australia in the first round? No.

Did 7 batsmen help us beat Australia in the final? No.

Did 7 batsmen help us Reach the final? No again.

there wasnt even ONE match where we used the 7th batsman (i'm sure of this)!! we posted totals between 250 and 300 and still won, because one of our batsmen (tendulkar) was playing like a dream and our bowlers (srinath, khan, nehra and harbhajan) were bowling superbly.

i feel we should select 6 in-form batsmen (usually we play with 7 batsmen, two of them usually contribute nothing), 4 regular bowlers and a regular keeper. its not fair to burden dravid with an albatross around his neck. moreover a regular keeper can help us win matches by creating run-outs, stumpings and catches out of half-chances.

it would help if one of those batsmen could work hard on their bowling -- sehwag or sachin have the potential to be true all-rounders (sachin already demonstrated that in the asia cup by almost emerging as the highest wicket-taker).

the balance would be perfect if the Wicketkeeper and one of the bowlers can bat. according to me pathan and harbhajan can manage a handful of runs between them on any given day.

where is the need for a 7th batsman (once tendulkar returns, especially) ?

by **akhilis2cool** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:41 am

The seventh baatsman theory is not bad at all. this has been proved on several occassions in the last 2 yrs. remember the natwest trophy final.....the champions trophy (sri lanka) match agnt. zimbabwe?....i cld add quite a few matches in that list. its not that i am against dravid not bein the WK...but the person replacing him shld. be a decent, if not very good, batsman. dinesh kartik had done pretty well in the U-19 level. i think he shld play a few more games ...but its not likely to happen in the champions trophy. he shld surely b in he team for the aussie series. if he clicks then we have a good replacement in hand.

but then as they showed y`day they can win even when dravid doesnt keep wickets.

India is in a good position as of now....irrespecive of who keeps the wickets.

by **azazel** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:09 pm

well, atleast they managed to salvage some pride by winning the last ODI!

this should get them pumped up for the upcoming Champions Trophy. lessee them perform well without Sachin n come out on top of the world!

by **akhilis2cool** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:22 pm

azazel wrote:well, atleast they managed to salvage some pride by winning the last ODI!
this should get them pumped up for the upcoming Champions Trophy. lessee them perform well without Sachin n come out on top of the world!

*gives az the thumbsup*

by **azazel** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:27 pm

*returns the friendly gesture*

come on India, dikha do.. er..matches jeet ke :twisted:

by **Sachin Tendulkar "God of India** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:50 am

Hey ppl,

I am bak again, well but this time i cant play coz i am injured. Its so bad whn u hav to miss a tournament of such stature. We shall definitely give the other teams a run for their money. Well fans be patient.

urs truly

by DQ » Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:51 am

Indians should stop following cricket so relegiously.

Probably then we will earn laurels in other games too.

With the amount of cricket being played these days, no wonder we will be slipping from 2nd to 7th and then back up in one year.

No point in furthur discussing thier debacles and acheivements !!!

by **Sharjeel** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:04 am

DQ wrote:Indians should stop following cricket so relegiously.

Probably then we will earn laurels in other games too.

With the amount of cricket being played these days, no wonder we will be slipping from 2nd to 7th and then back up in one year.

No point in furthur discussing thier debacles and acheivements !!!

Totally agree!

by **akhilis2cool** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:26 am

DQ wrote:Indians should stop following cricket so relegiously.

Probably then we will earn laurels in other games too.

bah!

among all the sports we play in india, cricket is the one that has brought us the most recognition in the world. the performances in other sports has got nothing to do with cricket. and as far as i know poople here are equally enthusiastic abt other sports, as was evident in the thread for the olympics.

by **CtrlAltDel** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:20 pm

DQ wrote:Indians should stop following cricket so relegiously.

Probably then we will earn laurels in other games too.

With the amount of cricket being played these days, no wonder we will be slipping from 2nd to 7th and then back up in one year.

No point in furthur discussing thier debacles and acheivements !!!

dont faint with surprise DQ....i think u r right and i agree with you!

by **azazel** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:49 pm

baaah.. then leave this thread to us poor cricket-lovers..

by **CtrlAltDel** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:37 pm

azazel wrote:baaah.. then leave this thread to us poor cricket-lovers..

well...from the title of this thread, i thot it was for dissing cricket and our team... :roll:

by **azazel** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:36 pm

no, its about gettin them pumped up to perform well in the future by doing our bit i.e. pray :roll:

by DQ » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:30 am

Doing Our Bit

*****ting ting ting ting*******

Organising an Homum, Fateha, Mass and Granth Path recital for the success of the Indian team in the forth coming ICC championship.

*****ting ting ting ting*******

Apart from the above:

Hope there are no more sponsors, so the need of sponsors will make these players Pumped.

by **azazel** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:16 pm

DQ wrote:*****ting ting ting ting*******
Organising an Homum, Fateha, Mass and Granth Path recital for the success of the Indian team in the forth coming ICC championship.
*****ting ting ting ting*******

Amen to tht my brudda :twisted:

by **akhilis2cool** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:51 pm

azazel wrote:
DQ wrote:*****ting ting ting ting*******
Organising an Homum, Fateha, Mass and Granth Path recital for the success of the Indian team in the forth coming ICC championship.
*****ting ting ting ting*******

Amen to tht my brudda

*Amen*

by **CtrlAltDel** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:43 pm

akhilis2cool wrote:
azazel wrote:
DQ wrote:*****ting ting ting ting*******
Organising an Homum, Fateha, Mass and Granth Path recital for the success of the Indian team in the forth coming ICC championship.
*****ting ting ting ting*******
Amen to tht my brudda
*Amen*

God helps those who help themselves....

unless they click as a team and play well, no amount of prayers would help... :roll:

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